Cooperation / Offering Bhogha / Kirtanananda 05 16 24

COOPERATION

Thanks prabhu:

Sorry? I needed to "cooperate" with Krishna Kant's IRM, and he wanted me to drop the molesting issue, book changes issue, poison issue, and take a vacation in the Caribbean under the direction of Jayapataka. Can't do that, sorry. Purujit wanted me to help him endorse his edited Gita. Can't do that either. Mathura Pati wants me to help him promote Saint Radhanath's cheer leaders like Bhakta das, and he is working with Purujit, who has edited the Gita. Nope. 

Point is, if I work with anyone of these folks, then all the other Prabhupada people will reject me. These folks all have separate agendas from the main idea of promoting Srila Prabhupada's important issues. They may be promoting part of what I am doing, and that is good, but they are not on board with all the issues. So if I support anyone of them, I will lose the support of most of the overall Prabhupada group. None of these people has a good track record of working cooperatively with other devotees. 

ys pd    

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OFFERING BHOGHA

There is a discussion going on about the proper method for offering bhoga and what was Srila Prabhupada's instruction about it.

Some people (for example Gaur Keshava Das) are making the claim that in a later letter Srila Prabhupada was referencing the Archana Paddhati book of the Gaudiya Math, or of one the versions from one of the Gaudiya matha branches, and that we should be following that instead of Srila Prabhupada's own instruction on how to offer bhoga. The full letter is included at the end of this comment.

We should note that "Arcana-paddhati" referred to in that letter is not referencing any written book, neither is it referring to the Gaudiya Matha's "Arcana-paddhati" book. It is a generic title of a book "to be written" (compiled) in the future, as indicated within that letter by the words "a book to be compiled by Nitai Prabhu based on Hari-bhakti-vilasa on Deity worship".

The name simply means "Method of deity worship", and is a generic title used for any book that explains the system of worship. The intention was a new book would be written based on essential instructions from Hari Bhakti Vilasa to serve as a guide book for devotees in ISKCON.

In the following two letters Srila Prabhupada makes clear about his idea for the Archana Paddhati book which was supposed to be compiled by Nitai Das:

"What are those Bengali dramas that Nitai is working on? He should work on arcana-paddhati, not divert his attention here and there. He should make Hari-bhakti-Vilasa into short cut, not more than twenty pages. He can consult Nrsimha Vallabha Goswami for help in this matter. This should be his first consideration now." - Srila Prabhupada letter to Akshayananda Maharaja (January 13, 1976)

"Now beginning from this year's Mayapur festival the devotees will begin preparing for Bhakti-sastri examination. Therefore we require a guidebook for Deity worship, arcana-paddhati, based on Hari-bhakti-Vilasa. All brahmanas will be responsible to learn this book. I would like to have the manuscript ready as soon as possible, preferably by Gaura Purnima. So please work diligently for this. Pradyumna began this, but I do not know what he has done with his work." - Srila Prabhupada letter to Nitai (January 9, 1976)

Since it is not a book that exists, there is nothing that can be quoted from this nonexistent book. It is not referring to the Gaudiya Matha's version of a guide book by the same name.

Every distinct branch of a sampradaya or even individual mathas will have their own versions of these types of books for puja, songs of vaishnava acharyas, manual for new devotees, etc.

Later in 1978 Jayatirtha Das, as one of the zonal acharyas, published a translation of the Gaudiya Matha's Archana Paddhati book in ISKCON instead of fulfilling Srila Prabhupada's request that a new book should be made by summarizing Hari Bhakti Vilasa into 20 pages.

As far as some of the people involved in this topic, Jayatirtha was later beheaded, Nitai Das rejected Srila Prabhupada and become an envious snake attacking Srila Prabhupada for decades, and Gaur Keshava Das took re-initiation in the Sri Sampradaya because he wanted something "more authentic" than Srila Prabhupada's initiation.

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Referenced letter:
Letter to: All Governing Body Commissioners
Dated: Jan. 6, 1976
Location: Nellore, South India
Letter to: All Governing Body Commissioners
76-01-06

To

All Governing Body Commissioners
Re: Examinations for awarding titles of Bhakti-sastri, Bhakti-vaibhava, Bhaktivedanta and Bhakti-sarvabhauma. Your response is requested immediately by Srila Prabhupada.

Dear Prabhus,

Please accept my most humble obeisances. Srila Prabhupada has requested me to write you in regard to the above examinations which he wishes to institute. Here in India many persons often criticize our sannyasis and brahmanas as being unqualified due to insufficient knowledge of the scriptures. Factually, there are numerous instances when our sannyasis and brahmanas have fallen down often due to insufficient understanding of the philosophy. 

This should not be a point of criticism nor a reason for falldown, since Srila Prabhupada has mercifully made the most essential scriptures available to us in his books. The problem is that not all the devotees are carefully studying the books, the result being a fall down or at least unsteadiness.

His Divine Grace therefore wishes to institute examinations to be given to all prospective candidates for sannyasa and brahmana initiation. In addition he wishes that all present sannyasis and brahmanas also pass the examination. 

Awarding of these titles will be based upon the following books:

Bhakti-sastri - Bhagavad-gita, Nectar of Devotion, Nectar of Instruction, Isopanisad, Easy Journey To Other Planets, and all other small paperbacks, as well as Arcana-paddhati (a book to be compiled by Nitai Prabhu based on Hari-bhakti-vilasa on Deity worship)

Bhakti-vaibhava - All of the above plus the first six cantos of Srimad-Bhagavatam
Bhaktivedanta - All of the above plus cantos 7 through 12 of Srimad-Bhagavatam
Bhakti-sarvabhauma - All the above plus the entire Caitanya-caritamrta.

Anyone wishing to be initiated as a brahmana will have to pass the Bhaktisastri exam and anyone wishing to take sannyasa will have to pass the Bhaktivaibhava examination as well. This will prevent our Society from degrading to the level of so many other institutions where, in order to maintain the Temple, they accept all third class men as brahmanas. Any sannyasis or brahmanas already initiated who fail to pass the exams will be considered low class or less qualified. Anyone wishing to be 2nd initiated will sit for examination once a year at Mayapur. Answers will be in essay form and authoritative quotations will be given a bigger score. During the exams books may not be consulted.

Srila Prabhupada wishes to begin this program at this year's Mayapur meeting. He requests that you all send your opinions and comments here immediately so that everything may be prepared in time.

Hoping this meets you in the best of health and Krsna Consciousness.
Approved: Your servant,

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Tamala Krsna Goswami

Personal Secretary

It’s embarrassing to me that devotees here in Alachua are being forced to follow the “bass ackwards” instructions of Gaura Keshava instead of Srila Prabhupada’s direct, rational instructions for offering bhoga to the Deities. I will NOT follow that stupid, offensive, idiocy of a rule. 

TD: Yes, it is coming from GK. I once read his reason is, because he does not believe the guru's to be pure like Prabhupada was. Therefore, not to offer to them first because the Deity should not take from someone less the perfect. 

So instead of just offering directly to Prabhupada first since we’re in HIS temple which solves everything, GK instructs to offer in an offensive, speculative way! He needs to throw out his padukas. They obviously interfere with his intelligence. 

P Dasi: Exactly. Instead of putting Prabhupada back in the center, it's about finding some odd way of maintaining a type of pretense. You hit the nail on the head. 

R Devi Dasi: Who is Gaura Keshava mataji? 

BL: Please let us maintain respect for someone we may disagree with but who has done so much service and is very dear to Srila Prabhupada. 

BB: Who is Gaura Keshava (GK) The big guy laughing at this thread. 

He’s a devotee that “specialized in Deity worship” but did not specialize in following Srila Prabhupada’s instructions for the seva of offering food to the Deities. When he added steps to ISKCON formal bhoga offerings like mula mantras on temple altars, it seemed unnecessary yet added some external pizzazz. 

Then he reversed the direct order of Srila Prabhupada’s for proper sequence of offering first to Prabhupada then Gaura Nitai then Radha Krishna etc. I have no idea how such a definite instruction from Srila Prabhupada was pushed aside and overridden by this jiva soul’s speculations. 

A Dasa: Today I spoke with Gaura Mandala Bhumi acbsp who was on the editing committee of the Archana Padhati along with Bhanu Swami and Gour Keshava. 

GMB had a big fight with GK because GK pushed like anything to have the Archana Padhati bhoga offering changed from Srila Prabhupada's guru first to his imported idea of Krishna first. When GK could not get his way he took reinitiation into the Sri Sampradaya, complaining Iskcon does not have proper Deity Worship standards. We all don't need to know any of the fancy mantras and razzmatazz that GK knows which he passionately believes makes him a Deity Worship expert and worthy of beneficial consultations. 

All we need to know is that Srila Prabhupada spelled it out very clearly in his 1968 letter that bhoga offerings are first offered to guru. That's it. End of GK's story telling. 

G Keshava Das - Gaura Mandala Bhumi Prabhu confirmed again today that he was on the GBC editing committee for editing the Arcana-paddhati. He is a very active and productive preacher in Indonesia. Why don't you call him and ask him? One of you needs a memory jolt. Speak to each other. 

J Dasi: iT IS NO LONGER PRASADAM PRABHUS! 

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KIRTANANANDA 

May 16, 2023: On this date in history 1 year ago, a reader posts a review of "Gold, Guns and God," Vol. 1:

Different individuals will draw different conclusions after examining Volume 1 of "Gold, Guns, and God" (GGG1) by Henry Doktorski. GGG1 reveals the filthy lifestyle of Kirtanananda with disturbing clarity. A key inference I drew from GGG1 is that depravity and perversion were deeply ingrained in the psyche of Kirtanananda to such an extreme degree as to make it impossible for him to suddenly renounce his twisted sexuality. In my view, the man described in GGG1 is the same man presented in Volume 2 (GGG2) and all of the remaining volumes. Deeply embedded wickedness, such as the kind chronicled in GGG1, does not suddenly vanish.

Since Bhaktipada Kirtanananda’s basic character did not improve even after meeting Srila Prabhupada, it stands to reason that Kirtanananda founded New Vrindaban with dark intentions. However, the historical evidence Doktorski uncovered is more powerful than mere a priori reasoning. Therein lies an important contribution of GGG2, specifically Doktorski’s insights into the inauspicious founding of New Vrindaban.

When I was a graduate student at The Ohio State University, I attended a class at the Columbus Temple in which Radhanath falsely told us, “New Vrindaban started out as a nice place. Then it became a different place. Now it is a nice place again.” Although Bhaktipada Kirtanananda advertised New Vrindaban as a divine sanctuary, it was a place of perversion from the start. His is not a story of a benevolent visionary who later became corrupt when he subsequently acquired power. Kirtanananda created an image of absolute dedication to Srila Prabhupada, while also deceiving and disobeying Prabhupada. Kirtanananda’s goal was to move Srila Prabhupada aside.

Suresh Persaud (Chand Prasad)
Maryland, USA

Udayananda / Randal G. Cieslak Assaults Krishna Devotee (VIDEO)

PADA: Wow. The defenders of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club are really getting nasty -- again! This Udayananda fellow reportedly assaulted a Prabhupada devotee and tried to beat him in the head, evidently -- at least as reports indicated. There is good news and bad news. The good news is -- no one really cannot defend the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiahs from heaven / guru lineage these days, it is really not defensible with siddhanta. 

So the followers of the regimes have to resort to banning, beating, suing and sometimes killing the people who do not bow down and worship the homosexual and pedophile guru lineage process. It means the defenders of that process are desperate. 

And after years and years of us exposing their process, they are getting very frustrated. Did I forget to mention we had to sue their guru lineage for $400,000,000 for mass child mistreatment, and they assassinated my associates and wanted to assassinate me. 

The bad news is, according to the Srimad Bhagavatam at least, anyone who assaults a Vaishnava has to enter Yamaraja's planet, and be placed onto stone rollers where they are squeezed like sugarcane, repeatedly. That is the fate of these Vaishnava assaulters. Especially, when they are assaulting people for objecting to the worship of deviants as God's messiahs and gurus.

Assaulting a person by whacking them in the head is also very dangerous, since head injuries can produce many unforseen future problems. OK this victim could have been hurt badly, paralyzed or killed even. 

But hey, the homosexual and pedophile messiah's lineage folks can be very violent, as we have seen in many examples. That is why we said -- it is -- "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual and pedophiles as messiahs club," and the enforcers can be violent as we see. And if Udayananda wants to give his side of this story, we would be glad to get it. 

If anyone has any added info on this incident, or similar incidents, please let us know. ys pd

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ISKCON's Madangopal Speaks Up (VIDEO) 05 15 24

 

PADA: ISKCON is gradually turning into an India cultural hall program. Madangopal claims to be a graduate of the Mayapur GBC's school, and some of the people there were arguing with me that it is common for acharyas to fall down [into illicit sex with men, women and children] and that is part of "the tradition of India."

Yeah, it is the tradition -- of bogus Hindu God men, who are falling down left, right and center. Sorry, there are no examples of our acharyas falling down, it is not part of our tradition. Anyway, now he is an appointed as another GBC guru, and that means he is a link in their illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club.

Westerners are not coming? No kidding, in the West we worship Jesus and not illicit sex with men, women and children as our messiahs. The India ICC bureau folks wrote to tell me -- the reason I do not endorse worshiping their "guru lineage" of -- homosexuals, pedophiles, predators, condom wearing deviants, machine gun swamis, offering LSD to the shalagram etc. is "you are a mleccha and you cannot understand Hindu culture." Well sorry, I do understand Hindu culture, it is chocker block with bogus God men. ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com 

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A continuation of this book from where I left off last time. Hare Krishna

Srila Prabhupada Siddhanta

Authorized Conclusions Regarding Srila Prabhupada, Great Vaisnavas, and the Mission and Teachings of the Krishna Consciousness Movement

'The Prabhupada Book'

Section Two

Siddhanta -- Philosophical Conclusions of the Krishna Consciousness Movement

E) Everyone Should Accept Srila Prabhupada as Spiritual Master.

As the Vedas underscore, acaryavan puruso veda: to get a bona fide understanding of Lord and His instructions in the scriptures, spiritual seekers must follow a bona fide acarya or spiritual master. Srila Prabhupada affirms this foundational spiritual principle and casts aside the notion that material space and time can somehow prevent followers of the spiritual master from associating with him in the here and now.

"Sri Jiva Gosvami advises that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions. One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding." (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.35, Purport)

"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana. Lord Krishna states in Bhagavad-gita, vyapasrita: one should accept a spiritual master. By this process the entire world can be converted to Krishna consciousness." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.8.54, Purport)

"... acaryavan puruso veda: one who follows the disciplic succession of acaryas knows things as they are." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.22.24, Purport, citing Chandogya Upanisad 6.14.2)

"... the Christians are following Christ, a great personality. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You follow some mahajana, a great personality.... You follow an acarya. Like the Christians— they follow Christ, an acarya. The Muhammadans—they follow an acarya, Muhammad. That is good. You must follow some acarya.... Evam parampara-praptam." (Conversation, May 20, 1975, Melbourne)

"Regarding the parampara system: there is nothing to wonder for big gaps. We have to pick up the prominent acarya and follow from him." (Letter, April 12,1968)

"This is called guru-parampara, disciplic succession.... This is the perfect process of knowledge. You approach the perfect person and get knowledge, and that is your perfect experience.... We are getting knowledge from Krishna, the most perfect. Or you get knowledge from Jesus Christ. That is also perfect, because the source is perfect." (Conversation, June 19,1974, Germany)

"Actually, one who is guided by Jesus Christ will certainly get liberation." (Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers, Chapter 9)

"... one has to associate with liberated persons not directly, physically, but by understanding, through philosophy and logic..." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.31.48, Purport)

"These are not ordinary books. It is recorded chanting. Anyone who reads-he is hearing." (Letter, October 19, 1974)

Disciple: Is there any way for a Christian to—without the help of a spiritual master-to reach the spiritual sky through believing in the words of Jesus Christ and trying to follow his teachings? Srila Prabhupada: When you read the Bible, you follow the spiritual master. How can you say "without"? As soon as you read the Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ—that means you are following the spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being "without a spiritual master"? Disciple: I was referring to a living spiritual master. Srila Prabhupada: The spiritual master is not the question of ["living"]... The spiritual master is eternal—the spiritual master is eternal. So your question is "without a spiritual master." Without a spiritual master you cannot be—at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. You say "by reading the Bible." When you read the Bible, that means you are following the spiritual master, represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So in any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question "without a spiritual master." Is that clear? (Questions and answers following a lecture, October 2, 1968, Seattle)

"The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru must be accepted from the topmost class... When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru." (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 24.330, Purport, citing Padma Purana)

soon there will be a sequel to this book

Hare Krishna

I am Done with Purujit's BLISS / BB Govinda Fraud Alert 05 14 24

Sleep in heavenly peace 

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PADA: Correct RD mataji. The Jagannath Balaram fellow from Spain (above) who supported Purujit,  Makhanchor and other BLISS boys, were all telling me I am an offender for rejecting Purujit's edited Gita. And when some folks suggested Purujit is making his own Gita -- so he can become some sort of guru, they were called offenders etc.

I was told that later on Purujit was caught watching porno and that is why Jagannath Balarama asked him to leave Spain. I dunno, but we never heard from Jagannath Balarama after that.  

Now some of the BLISS folks are saying, so what if we preach that the earth is flat? It will inspire conversation! Hee hee, it will make you look like the people we do not want to advertise. But this shows how the BLISS folks and Mathura Pati have merged together, changed books and flat earth society joined together. 

Sorry, they have not cleared up any, never mind all of this, ever. One male devotee left the BLISS boys because he said Purujit was too much domineering and strident, I dunno but he seems to have a problem keeping people.

Meanwhile more than a few PADA readers told me they are never going to fund, help, support or advertise BLISS or Mathura Pati because "they are motivated for position, just like the GBC people." Yeah, and they insult the other Prabhupadanugas and go off on book changing and flat earth tangents etc.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

  

I AM DONE WITH THE BLISS BOYS

J Dasi: So basically I see Purujit wants to be worshiped like a diska guru. I feel he is one of the most envious souls I've encountered personally. I am first of all.....i realize that statement coming from me...is ludicrous. Krsna knows I have engaged myself is some sinful activity again and again like an ignorant arse ... but I would never commit spiritual suicide and change Srila Prabhupada's books. This image of Purujit and Ramachandra besides a photo of Lord Caitanya in their Easy journey makes me so mad.

So of course when I stayed with them for a week (like an idiot) I gave some donation. because I stayed there and it is appropriate and decent to do so in my opinion. But then it's like...."Please donate to our diciples initiation" , "Please Mataji, we are low on rent can you give some laksmi?"

I find this deolorable. Considering my poor circumstance, and having children to support, which they know. I've heard Purujit das say to me, "Leave your family, they're going to die anyway, come serve us in BLISS" 

Really! Lol! I've heard Purujit say "if you can't follow the rules and regulations perfectly, don't follow them at all." Very encouraging!

I've seen they have published their own Bhagavad Gita and preach from it. They make it out to be like .... they translated their own versions of Sri Isopanosad in their homeland language and so they have found some other changes and have fixed them. Which sure is fine. I see that and understood it to be like a bliss study manual not intended for distribution and personal fame. 

And they intend to publish many of them and distribute. (I will post a picture)
They have edited Srila Prabhupadas Sri Isopanisad. I have not read it all. I'm done associating with them for good. The Sri Iso has a few pages Purujit inserted explaining the bliss agenda but no picture of himself.

They wanted to send me some Sri Isopanisad to distribute but instead sent copies of their edited version of Srila Prabhupadas Easy Journey to other Planets which I then noticed their picture is inserted into this new original version. Yes because originally when Purujit das was born -- Srila Prabhupada forgot to insert his picture next to Lord Caitanya when he first compiled the book. 

Sarcasm.

So this bogus Bhagavad Gita they intend to distribute has pictures of Pururjut as well?? He will be addressed as the officiating acharya lolololololol.

Just like every other book changer usurping Srila Prabhupadas work ...his life and soul. Once this all became clear to me I ghosted them. I have not explained why I don't associate with them anymore. I let a few Prabhus know of the picture and some of this info ...and that is all I feel comfortable doing as a single lady with children to protect. Yes I want to avoid the whole public debate and all that ego stroking nonsense. ...but also say at least a few words. 

According to the officiating acharya of BLISS lololol he intends to publish a book about the Buddha based on Srila Prabhupadas letters and manuscript with Govinda dasa and have Miguel illustrate it.

So all of this makes me feel very far from Srila Prabhupada despite the fact that I learned an amazing mangala aratik ceremony from them. Tasted amazing prasadam, went on Harinam ... yeah but still, I'm now very embarrassed but...I am done with them.

There are other aspects of association that I just sort of looked beyond ...like I am perfect association lol, no. But I'd never change Srila Prabhupadas books and distribute them for recognition. Ever. Makes me so sad.

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!


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BB GOVINDA IS A FRAUD

This is an anonymous share (Part 1) Sharing again...

To whom it may concern

A few years back I was invited to attend a festival at the temple in Almaty Kazakhstan. Knowing that my friends Madhava Das and Govinda das, who is now the head of the 24 hr kirtan department in Vrindavan, would be attending, I decided to go.

One day I was invited to BB Govinda Swami's (BBGS) private home which boasts an attached sauna and Spa facility. His residence was located in a secluded area of the ISKCON farm community on the outskirts of Almaty.

While at his house, I walked in on Maharaj receiving a full body oil massage by his young Russian female secretary. At that time, she must have been in her mid-to-late twenties. During the massage session she was only wearing a choli top and lower garment loosen around her waist area.

Feeling very shocked by what I had witnessed I turned to Anirdesh Vapu (aka Bhaktividya purna swami) who happened to be there at that time. He told me that BBGS was transcendental and not affected by lust, hence there was no issue to speak of. I also asked for advice from Govinda and others. I was encouraged to leave, feeling disgusted and disappointed I flew to New Delhi. Upon reaching Vrindavan I confided in Aindra prabhuji and his assistant Gopal das.

After some time, I stopped thinking about what I had witnessed in Kazakhstan. Over the years while residing and working for my father's business partner in India, I would occasionally meet with BBG Swami. On one such occasion was in a five-star hotel in Delhi called the Oberoi (Records can be requested).

There I again witnessed BBG Swami receiving a full body oil massage in the spa Health Center by some non-devotee oriental Thai ladies.

Around this same time, a friend of mine saw BBG Swami taking his secretary out on late night dates while she was dressed up in a mini skirt. 

On another occasion during Kartik I visited Maharaj in his house and saw him entertaining Kiranas, a known pedophile in the community.

While I was at BBGS's house he received a visit by Shri Radhe devi dasi (South African) alongside her female students from the Mayapur Gurukula, at that time these girls were under the age of 15.

I personally witness Maharaj embracing each one as they lined up for a sharing of "the Love".

Many years later when the local ISKCON management at the Krishna Balaram temple had Kiranas arrested, Indradyumna Swami and BBGS paid for his bail to release him from police custody.

These are the three main incidents that I have personally witnessed.

BBGS spent $30,000 usd refurbishing his bathroom in Vrindavana, he told me that he did not like the way it looked while giving a tour to myself and my mother.
This was the money that he had collected on behalf of his yatra in Kazakhstan. Having failed to register the community correctly, the local government evicted the devotees in the community and bulldozed many of their homes.

Maharaj then use that as an excuse to fund raise for his failing project meanwhile lavishly spending money on his own personal self. Expensive reading glasses costing at least $1,000 fashion branded (now in a monkey's mouth) accessories and cologne, five star hotel resorts business class flights his own fancy private apartment properties in London, Dubai and Mayapur. His house in Vrindavana was stolen from the UK yatra in Vrindavan.

In 2018, in the UK, his servant witnessed him embracing a young 15 year old girl at her private residency, without the knowledge of her parents.

He instructed his servant not to take any photographs which made his assistant question the nature of his intention.

Due to retribution and intimidation by BB Govinda Swami many people are scared and have not come forward. He can be very aggressive. I also witnessed him making racist statements and jokes cursing out black people.

I presented this information to Prahladananda Swami of the Sannyas committee many years ago, but nothing ever came of it.

I sincerely hope that this time these matters will be properly investigated and addressed so that BBG Swami can get the help he needs!

Yours in the service of the lord Narashima 

Srila Prabhupada is shastra / BVKS Hidden Video Resurfaces / SDG 05 13 24

PADA: Thanks prabhu. Agreed. Bhakti Vikas swami sort of has the look of guilt about him on the video. And yeah, he also has the look of a person who just woke up from a bad dream. He has taken on a boat load of karma, and he has told his foolish friends to also take on boat loads of karma, and it shows.

Maybe that is why he deleted the video. Anyway, his explanation screams all sorts of bad misunderstandings of religion, no question. And whereas perps and their enablers are to be forgiven, us whistleblowers never are forgiven. That is the whole problem.

And that is a given! 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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Yep, we challenged Purujit's book changes a long time ago.

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“HOW COULD SATSVARUPA NOT BE AWARE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S POISONING? 

Upon reading the actual BTG magazine article (Vol. 13-6) which was based on this “euthanasia interview,” we found, word for word, exactly what Tamal had spoken on the tape, EXCEPT the controversial portions referring to medicine, wanting to die, and so on- GONE, OMITTED! BTG Chief Editor and interviewer Satsvarupa had cleaned-up the transcript and cut out out the “strange” parts about assisted suicide. 

Perhaps Tamal asked Satsvarupa to clean it up like that after he had second thoughts? This makes Satsvarupa a suspect as well (see Ch. 83). In 1998 Isha sent transcripts of both, contrasting the taped interview with the edited, published BTG article, to Satsvarupa, with a letter asking what Satsvarupa thought about Tamal’s unusual statements about medicine to die, and why they were omitted. 

Isha had been Satsvarupa’s assistant before. Satsvarupa wrote back saying that the interview was for a BTG article, totally ignoring the questions about Tamal’s shocking statements. Satsvarupa was not straightforward or honest when questioned, and he deliberately avoided the sensitive questions of Srila Prabhupada’s supposed assisted suicide. Why? We note that in 1977 Satsvarupa repeated Tamal’s claims about euthanasia.

Ideas that none of the new initiating gurus in 1977 were aware of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning should be held in abeyance. Our conviction in Satsvarupa’s complicity in or knowledge of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning comes from: 

(1) He asks Tamal to elaborate “about Prabhupada asking for something to let him disappear, that he wanted to die.” 

(2) He conducted Tamal’s interview, then deleted the parts about assisted suicide from the final BTG article for the public. Why? 

(3) He did not challenge Tamal about claims Srila Prabhupada wanted assisted suicide. 

(4) He evaded Isha’s questions as to why he cut out these parts. 

(5) Despite knowing about Tamal’s claims of euthanasia, Satsvarupa eagerly became an initiating guru after Srila Prabhupada had been euthanized. How sleazy to know about and then benefit from the euthanasia, without asking questions. 

This is like quietly accepting a share of stolen merchandise when you know the previous owner was killed. And this is why euthanasia laws have strict provisions to prevent exploitation for personal profit.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 1.303)

Flat Earth Joins Changed Books / Who is useless (Upendranath) 05 12 24

MUKUNDA UK: FANATICAL FLAT EARTHER [Mathura Pati] SAYS HE WANTS KRISHNA TO KILL HIM IN A CAR CRASH IF THE EARTH IS NOT FLAT. So basically everything I quote from Prabhupada is correct you cannot refute it! But you will stick to your flat earth nonsense until Krishna kills you in a car crash!!! This is blind fanatical FOOL. CRAZY FANATIC NOT INTELLIGENT FOLLOWER OF PRABHUPADA.

PADA: The whole issue with Purujit started a few years ago. He insisted that he was going to edit the 1972 Gita himself, and make his own version. Which he has subsequently done. Then his followers went on a rampage attacking PADA for our saying the 1972 edition is authorized. In fact, most of us old timers became devotees by reading the original early 1970s Gitas. I was reading the Blue Cover condensed version before the full edition was ever even published.   

Then Mathura Pati blocks the Srila Prabhupada's quotes we provided, showing that Srila Prabhupada was already not happy with the 1976 edits, and he wanted to go back to the originals. In other words, Mathura Pati does not even know what an original book is in the first place. 

Then Mathura Pati said that Srila Prabhupada statements about the earth being a globe are -- incorrectly translated by Srila Prabhupada (as he told Rosalba). Srila Prabhupada also authorized a round globe in the paintings in his books, which he supposedly did to -- appease the public and not make a controversy. 

Anyway, now Mathura Pati says, if the earth is not flat, then he should die in a car crash to prove the earth is a round globe. Is someone not taking their meds here? How will his car crash prove that the world is not the shape of a piece of cheese cake?

Meanwhile both Mukunda UK and Mathura Pati have been citing Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta das as their shiksha authority. And none of the Prabhupadanugas are on board with that process. So I don't know exactly what is going on with these folks, but someone says -- there might be some serious intoxicants involved here. 

Meanwhile, when Tamal went to India to discuss the child abuse lawsuit, he was killed -- in a car crash -- after leaving the meeting. And Tamal's followers blamed me for his departure. PADA baited Tamal to go to India! It is all PADA's fault he is gone! 

At the time, Mukunda UK was crying his eyes out how the cruel PADA had taken away his hero Tamal. He was infuriated that we started the lawsuit which supposedly caused Tamal to be gone, and he said PADA is a great offender for taking away their hero meister of the jagat Tamal. We really cannot make this stuff up? 

Everyone else was cheering me along saying this is great, this guy is gone, but Mukunda and his friends were crying like babies that their Judas saint was taken out -- and he was crying that PADA was all to blame, just like the GBC people. Really? Well I had no idea he was even there, or was going there, and had nothing to do with his situation there. 

In any case, there is no need for all these dramatics. If the earth is round, square, flat, triangle etc., your dying in a car crash won't prove a blessed thing. Other than, you are another nut job posing as a Hare Krishna. 

Anyway, we do have to make a stand on the book changes issue, that is not acceptable. And promoting Bhakta dasa and Saint Radhanath is getting TONS of complaints from the PADA-ites, they don't like that at all. 

In the end, more PADA readers are telling me, these people are all not fit to be called actual devotees, they are motivated fanatics who want to use Krishna to promote their personal agendas. But something is clearly wrong when they are saying -- my dying in a car crash will prove my idea. That sounds just a little bit psycho to the average person. 

What did Tamal's car crash prove? I forgot, it proves that PADA was the cause, when PADA was not even aware he was there! OK enough nuttiness for one day, hee hee.

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Oh Lordy.

Someone hand me my percodans!

=====

Upendranath

Did Srila Prabhupada, or any of the Past Acaryas, use the Adjective “Useless”? & Are You Making Spiritual Advancement?

SRILA PRABHUPADA WROTE IN PURPORT TO BHAGAVAD-GITA 10.4-5:

“Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are, for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. The truth should be spoken in a straightforward way, so that others will understand actually what the facts are. If a man is a thief, and if people are warned that he is a thief, that is truth. Although sometimes the truth is unpalatable, one should not refrain from speaking it. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.”

So, now keep in your mind, the above purport, by Srila Prabhupada. Especially: “Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others.”

Now I will “Present the FACTS, because Truthfulness Demands it”; as Srila Prabhupada wrote in the above Purport.

LECTURE, BHAGAVAD-GITA.1974, HAWAII:

“Unless one is firmly established in the mode of goodness, one’s spiritual life is simply a bluff one is firmly established in the mode of goodness, one’s spiritual life is simply a bluff. Because without coming to the platform of sativa-guna, (mode of goodness), nobody can advance in spiritual life. That is a fact. Just like nobody is allowed to enter the law college unless he is a graduate. This restriction is there. What he will understand, law? He must be a graduate.

So similarly, first of all, one has to come to the platform of sattva-guna. Then spiritual knowledge begins. Because spiritual knowledge is above sattva-guna. Above sattva-guna.

Therefore, sattva-guna is the best quality, when one brain is clear and he can see things as they are, no hazy understanding, but clear understanding. Therefore, sattva-guna is the qualification of brahmana.”

The words underlined, and used by Srila Prabhupada, I will show the definitions, just in case there is a reader who is not getting Srila Prabhupada’s “drift”, so to speak.

Ø Drift: “the general intention or meaning of an argument or someone's remarks.”

Ø Unless: “except on the condition that.”

Ø Firmly: “strongly and tightly:”

Ø Established: “having been in existence for a long time and therefore recognized and generally accepted”

Ø Simply: “n a straightforward or plain manner”

PAY ATTENTION TO THE NEXT ONE:

Ø Bluff: “an attempt to deceive someone into believing that one can or will do something”

Ø Nobody: “no person, no one”

Ø Advance: “move forward in a purposeful way; make or cause to make progress; a development or improvement”

Ø Fact: “something that has actual existence; a truth known by actual experience or observation”

Ø Begins: “start; perform or undergo the first part of (an action or activity)”

Ø Above: “in a higher place than”

I unconditionally state that the majority of Srila Prabhupada disciples, especially the disciples in the various levels of Leadership, have become, “USELESS”.

“Useless”, means: “Not fulfilling or not expected to achieve the intended purpose or desired outcome.”

These words are certainly “unpalatable” to many, however, to some they are not, because they know it is the “truth”.

Even more significant, this emotionally charged adjective is not the word concocted, or rationalized opinion, by Upendranath dasa. Upendranath Dasa, is simply repeating, the adjective used by Krishna dasa Kaviraja Gosvami, in his Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, where he references Srila Jiva Gosvami. Moreover, Srila Prabhupada has also used this emotionally charged adjective in his purports; where he also references Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, , and Srila Jiva Gosvami.

Both, leaders and rank-and-file devotees, disciples of Srila Prabhupada or disciples of his disciples, can be described with this adjective, “USELESS”, simply because of just ONE, (1), reason! Yes! Only one reason; and that is:

“They are not following the orders and instructions given by Srila Prabhupada.”

SRILA PRABHUPADA GAVE ORDERS & INSTRUCTIONS, AND ADVICE OF TWO TYPES.

1. Those applicable to all his disciples.

2. Those applicable to only the disciples who comprise the leadership, namely the GBC’s[1]-Ministers, Sannyasis[2], and Temple Presidents, and their Officers, like Temple Commanders, Secretaries, and Treasures.

Nevertheless, if the leaders of ISKCON, for some reason or another, have not followed his principal orders & instructions; this defiance will also filter on down to the rank-and-file devotees, causing negative personal consequences to them as well.

Upendranath dasa, posits that the failure to follow the following 2 instructions or orders, is the root cause of ISKCON’s ruination; simply, because the Leaders have become “USELESS”.

I will now describe what is considered as the two most important, and consequential issues, that led Srila Prabhupada’s institution into “ruination”; and caused the rank-and-file devotees to have the mental attitude of: “It Is What It Is”, (an expression used to characterize a frustrating or challenging situation that a person believes cannot be changed and must just be accepted).

These two instructions are,

1. Not following his orders and instructions, regarding the “Selecting of a Spiritual Master”, known as the “Guru-Issue”; when an Unauthorized and Concocted Guru selection System, that is not sanctioned or supported by Gaudiya-Vaisnavas Siddhanta, or the principle of “Guru, Shastra, Sadhu”, was established.

2. Not following the orders and instructions, on how ISKCON should be managed as directed in the “Direction of Management Letter” written in 1972 (the DOM); both while he was with us, and after his departure, (I will not elaborate on this because I know that it is not part of your life and not relevant at this time for you)

The following is just one of numerous such reference, that can be found in Srila Prabhupada Veda-Base, which constitutes a “USELESS” Disciple.

SRI CAITANYA-CARITAMRITA, ADI LILA, 12.10, SRILA KRISHNA-DASA KAVIRAJA GOSWAMI WROTE.

“The order of the spiritual master is the active principle in spiritual life. Anyone who disobeys the order of the spiritual master immediately becomes USELESS.”

PURPORT:

“Here is the opinion of Srila Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami. Persons who strictly follow the orders of the spiritual master are useful in executing the will of the Supreme, whereas persons who deviate from the strict order of the spiritual master are USELESS.”

An unauthorized, guru system was adopted by the GBC, just months after Srila Prabhupada departed. and it still functions to this day. Keep in mind that it is not the lone opinion of this Upendranath Dasa that ISKCON has such an unauthorized guru system. It is originally the opinion of Srila Prabhupada, Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, and Srila Jiva Gosvami.

SRI CAITANYA-CARITAMRITA, ADI-LILA 1.31 PURPORT:

“It is imperative that a serious person accept a bona fide spiritual master in terms of the sastric injunctions.

Sri Jiva Gosvami advises that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions.

One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding.”

The phrase “It is imperative that a serious person”, and “sastric injunctions”, are very significant.

Imperative Means: “of vital importance; crucial; that something is of the utmost importance or necessity”.

Serious person Means: “People who are thoughtful and quiet, and do not laugh very often; are earnest, grave, sedate, sober, solemn, and sedate”.

IN REGARD TO “SASTRIC INJUNCTIONS”, PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:

SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM 4.27.25 PURPORT, SRILA PRABHUPADA WRITES:

“ … The sastric injunctions are confirmed by great sages like Narada Muni. As stated by Narottama dasa Thakura: sadhu-çastra-guru-vakya, cittete kariya aikya. One should follow the principles of saintly persons, scriptures and the spiritual master. In this way one is sure to attain success in life. …”

Srila Prabhupada wrote, “The sastric injunctions are confirmed by great sages like Narada Muni.”, He did not write, “The sastric injunctions are confirmed by conditioned devotees with a title of ‘GBC’”. It is what is called “A No Brainer”, that having the title of “GBC” does not put you on “par” with the status of a great sages like Narada Muni.

CAITANYA-CARITAMRTA ANTYA 3.221 SRILA PRABHUPADA WRITE IN PURPORT:

“ … the sastric injunctions, which are the true medium of evidence or proof …”

Srila Prabhupada, did not write, “ the GBC resolutions, which are the true medium of evidence or proof.”

IN TLC, CHAPTER 31, SRILA PRABHUPADA WRITES:

“ … All Sastric injunctions, as well as the versions of great sages and authorities, establish that a bona fide spiritual master is not necessarily a brahmana. The only qualification is that he be conversant with the science of Krishna, Krishna consciousness. That alone makes one perfectly eligible to become a spiritual master. This is the conclusion of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His discussions with Ramananda Raya. …”

SRILA PRABHUPADA, AGAIN CITING SRILA JIVA GOSVAMI, WRITES IN CAITANYA-CARITAMRITA, ADI.1.35. PURPORT:

“It is imperative that a serious person accept a bona fide spiritual master in terms of the sastric injunction.

Sri Jiva Gosvami advises that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions.

One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding.”

Srila Prabhupada and Sri Jiva Gosvami advises that one should find a spiritual master in terms of sastric injunctions, and not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions.

However, and unfortunately, the GBC of ISKCON (Which does not exist any more; which is now the GBC of West Bengal India) has a system of “RUBBERSTAMPING” Gurus, who’s main qualification is that they are “Yes-Men”, and have a desire to what Srila Bhaktivinoda called Sutle-Sex-Life: “Profit”, “Adoration” & “Distinction”

Yet the ISKCON GBC has done exactly this; so, are they not guilty of not following the orders of one’s spiritual master? Of course, they are guilty of not following the orders of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Jiva Goswami. One could say that they are “guilty as sin”, i.e., “completely or very guilty.”

ISKCON’s Guru selection system violates the advice given by Srila Prabhupada and Sri Jiva Gosvami when they say that one should not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions. ISKCON’s Guru selection system that is offered to its members is absolutely a “customary social, and ecclesiastical convention”; or in simpler terms, it is “Rubberstamping”, par- excellent.

LET US LOOK AT THE MEANING OF THE WORDS USED BY SRILA JIVA GOSWAMI:

Customary: According to or depending on custom; usual; habitual. Of or established by custom rather than law. Defined by long-continued practices.

Social: Relating to, devoted to, or characterized by friendly companionship or relations. Living or disposed to live in companionship with others or in a community, rather than in isolation.

Ecclesiastical: Of or relating to the church or the clergy; churchly; clerical; not secular.

Convention: A meeting or formal assembly, as of representatives or delegates, for discussion of and action on particular matters of common concern. A representative Party assembly to nominate candidates and adopt platforms and assembly protocols.

ISKCON’s guru system was established by custom and not by sastra. It certainly requires a society that is disposed to living in companionship with others or in a community, and is clerical, and not secular. This guru system was established with meetings, and formal assembly; with discussions regarding actions to be taken, that were of common interest and concern, to the power, and financial vested interests of GBCs, Gurus, Sannaysis, and Temple Presidents.

SRILA PRABHUPADA WROTE IN QUEST FOR ENLIGHTENMENT, 2F, THE MERCY OF LORD CAITANYA:

As Naratama Dasa Thakura says,

“Make the orders of the spiritual master your life and soul.”

And then,

“Do not think otherwise. Simply accept what he says.”

Of course,

“First of all, you must select who will be your spiritual master”.

You must know his qualifications. If you want to purchase gold, you must at least know where gold is available. If you are so foolish that you go to a butcher shop to buy diamonds or gold, then you'll be cheated.

Similarly, if out of ignorance, you approach the wrong person for spiritual guidance, you'll be cheated.

So, finding a bona fide guru requires intelligence and sincerity. If you are serious about understanding the goal of life, spiritual knowledge, then Krishna will help you. He is situated in everyone's heart, and he understands when you are sincerely seeking the Absolute Truth. Then He gives direction: “Go to this person.” Krishna is already giving direction in every respect. We want to do so many things, and Krishna is giving us the facility. As He says in the Bhagavad-gita 18.61,

“The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone's heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy.”

As the Supersoul in the heart, Krishna is giving facilities to all living entities in their wanderings throughout the various species. But when one becomes very eager to understand Krishna, or God, He is glad to give instruction:

“Go to such-and-such person and submissively inquire from him. You'll be enlightened.”

CAITANYA-CARITAMRTA-MADHYA-LILA 19.15,

“According to their karma, all living entities are wandering throughout the entire universe. Some of them are being elevated to the upper planetary systems, and some are going down into the lower planetary systems. Out of many millions of wandering living entities, one who is very fortunate gets an opportunity to associate with a bona fide spiritual master by the grace of Krishna. By the mercy of both Krishna and the spiritual master, such a person receives the seed of the creeper of devotional service.”

By the mercy of the spiritual master and Krishna one can make spiritual advancement. One must simply be sincere.

Krishna did not say that someone else will select for you by providing a list of GBC approved gurus, which Srila Prabhupada called “Rubber-Stamping”, and which he disapproved of. This has been confirmed by Srila Jiva Gosvami when he advises that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions.

Srila Prabhupada also said, “You must know his qualifications”.

SRI CAITANYA-CARITAMRITA-MADHYA-LILA 19.151,

“By the mercy of the spiritual master and Krishna one can make spiritual advancement. One must simply be sincere.”

“Sincere” means, “Free from ‘pretense’, or ‘deceit’.”

“Pretense”, means, “An attempt to make something that is not the case appear true; a false display of feelings, attitudes, or intentions.”

“Deceit”, means,“The action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth.”

ISKCON leaders are not sincere, because they are not free from pretense or deceit. They make things that are not the case, appear to be true. They display false feelings, attitudes, and intention. They deceive their disciples and followers, by concealing and misrepresenting the “Truth” regarding the selection of a guru and what it means to be a disciple.

Gurus are approved by a system where by the guru candidate, personally petitions a selection committee, and includes a recommendation from an established guru. Then the want-to-be guru, must wait for a probationary period. If approved by the selection committee, they then recommend the candidate to the whole GBC. The GBC, who on the basis of the approval of the committee, does not deliberate, and simply, automatically, and unanimously, votes the candidate, as an authorized guru. This is “Rubber-Stamping” par excellent. Later, you will read, where Srila Prabhupada said “No Rubber-Stamping”. Simply speaking, the GBCs are selected in this manner. This is reminiscent of the “Politburo of the historical Communist Party of the Soviet Union”, or the Catholic Church system of Pope and Cardinals.

Yes, an aspiring disciple in ISKCON is allowed to make a personal choice of who they want their guru to be. However, they are not allowed to determine who is a qualified guru. They depend on the GBC to do this for them.

ISKCON basically, without saying it, proclaiming it, or advertising it, is saying:

“An aspiring disciple, who wants a guru, is not qualified to choose a guru on the basis of sastric, (scriptural), injunctions. Therefore, an aspiring disciple can choose a guru solely on the basis of “sentimental criteria”.

Or it can be characterized in this way.

“Oh! Prabhu! You do not have to worry about what is a bona-fide guru, or who can be guru. You do not need to be concerned about that, because we, the GBC, HAVE DECIDED FOR YOU. Furthermore, according to your sentimental, and non-verifiable criteria; you can choose from this list of approved gurus. You just have to choose the one that fancies your whatever sentimental reason, or reasons are.”

It has been shown, by Srila Prabhupada’s own words, that choosing a guru is absolutely and solely the responsibility of the individual. Srila Prabhupada even informs us of the advice of Sri Jiva Gosvami, who says that one should not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary, or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions.

It is amazing that Srila Prabhupada had warned us about the bogus system of selecting a guru, that ISKCON has adopted. You have to have a question on you mind at this point. Could it be,

“Why has the GBC of ISKCON disregarded and not follow these instructions from Srila Prabhupada and Srila Jiva Gosvami?”

This blatant disregard of Srila Prabhupada’s advice, instructions, and orders, what to speak of deliberate disregard of the advice of Srila Jiva Gosvami, is devastating. The only reason that a member in ISKCON will select a guru by this ecclesiastical convention, is that they do not read nor study, Srila Prabhupada’s books, and lectures, carefully. Moreover, the GBC obviously has some sinister Personal Ambition agenda. Otherwise, why they blatantly disregarded Srila Prabhupada’s and Srila Jiva Gosvami’s instructions?

The GBC, the temple presidents, sannyasis, and gurus who have been selected by ecclesiastical convention, and the ordinary members of ISKCON, who support these leaders, are all colluding in maintaining this practice. Knowing or un-knowing, this offence is known as the mad-elephant.

LET’S SEE WHAT ELSE SRILA PRABHUPADA HAD TO SAY ABOUT “RUBBER-STAMPING”.

ROOM CONVERSATION — APRIL 22, 1977, BOMBAY:

Prabhupada: “No, you become guru, but you must be qualified first of all. Then you become.”

Tamala Krishna: “Oh, that kind of complaint was there.”

Prabhupada: “Did you know that?”

Tamala Krishna: “Yeah, I heard that, yeah.”

Prabhupada: “What is the use of producing some rascal guru?”

Tamala Krishna: “Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and its clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible...”

[Comment: Note that Tamala Krishna said about 6 months prior to the disappearance of Srila Prabhupada that he and all the other disciples, are conditioned souls and cannot be guru. Nevertheless, he and 10 other unscrupulous persons commandeered Srila Prabhupada’s Krishna consciousness Movement. Moreover, very soon after his disappearance, in early 1978. these 11 swindlers declared themselves as fully qualified gurus and Uttama-adhikari. They instantly, in just 10 months went from “conditioned soul” to qualified “gurus”. Srila Prabhupada said,

“You become guru, but you must be qualified first of all. Then you become.”

These 11 charlatans must have inferred this to mean that a GBC resolution, of conditioned souls, can make them qualified gurus. There was a 12thCBC and sannaysi, a personal friend of mine, who personally informed me, that he was approached by two of these eleven, with the specific reason of having him join the hi-jacking of ISKCON. He refused, and said that he would not have anything to do with such a scheme. Asking them why they are doing this, one of them replied,

“It is because of the Money”, “Prabhu”!

[End of Comment]

Prabhupada: “Hm.”

Tamala Krishna: “...but not now.”

Prabhupada: “Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, “Now you become acharya. You become authorized.” I am waiting for that. You become all acharya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.

Tamala Krishna: “The process of purification must be there.”

Prabhupada: “Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahaprabhu wants that. [Caitanya-caritamrita-Madhya-lila 7.128: ‘You become guru.’ (laughs) But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower...”

[Comment: Why would the disciples of Srila Prabhupada, attending this conversation, “LAUGH”? The reason they laughed is that all of Srila Prabhupada disciples, understood that they were not qualified to be Guru like Srila Prabhupada himself.]

Tamala Krishna: “Not Rubber Stamp.”

Prabhupada: “Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat, but it will not be effective.. Just see our Gaudiya Matha. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and “guru.” What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff.”

In the early years after Srila Prabhupada’s departure, many disciples organized and protested what the GBC did. There were essays and papers written, and meetings that addressed this issue of an unauthorized Guru protocol. What was the result of many years of such protest, and argument, you may ask?

The answer is,.

“The leaders of this protesting movement, were by GBC vote; rubber-stamped gurus, as well. Hence, without leaders, this protesting movement, dissipated like a ‘fart’ in the wind.”

ISKCON Leaders "Dismantling" Child Protection. (VIDEO) 05 12 24

Happy Mother's Day!

PADA: The ISKCON child protection office (CPO) is "being dismantled." All that after many years of "interfering with the CPO rulings." All that -- after the ISKCON GBC have broken promise after promise to help build a strong CPO. And now they have made an alleged internal CPO -- which is fully under the control of the GBC, and has no independent capacity. OK we told ya they are corrupt all along, and they are just proving that -- again.

A GBC guru-ite wrote to tell me I am not following the tradition. And "the tradition" is -- we find a "devotee in good standing" and we place his photo on our temple and home altars and make bhogha offerings to that person. Ummm, what? 

Where in our tradition do we make bhogha offerings to conditioned souls who are allegedly in good standing. And if they are part of the dismantling of the CPO process, how are they in good standing? So then he said -- he is done discussing with me, well sure, there is no good explanation for where this is found in our tradition. 

Sorry, we do not worship the photo of Pastor Bob or the senior church elders in good standing, we worship the acharya -- like Jesus. Nobody with any sense is going to place a photo of Pastor Bob on their home of church altar and worship a person "in good standing." Did I forget to mention most of their gurus in good standing subsequently fell down?   

Another devotee sent me a series of photos of various GBC gurus taken over the years of them -- hugging, evidently kissing in one photo, holding hands, and generally looking overly friendly. He asked me "are most of them gay"? Well yeah, that is a good question on the minds of more and more people. 

Meanwhile someone sent me an advert that Mathura Pati is making to fund raise, and the person sending me the ad said, he is going to tell everyone else to boycott that program -- and do not send them anything. 

Mathura Pati seems to have made himself look a little silly by his promoting and supporting Bhakta das and Saint Radhanath, ok the Bhakti Pedo Pada program. Yeah, so this devotee said -- Mathura Pati is obviously with the Saint Radhanath's hugging and kissing guru's program, wonder what his real agenda is? 

Anyway, these CPO reform troopers are still on the job of addressing the ISKCON child abuse issue, and we are glad they are on it! Good job. The GBC sued these folks to try to shut them down, and that shows how much interest they have in actually reforming and correcting. Yup. We just need to expose em' more and more! You go guys -- and gals!

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